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JOHN FABER VE3CNF
ve3cnf@sympatico.ca
March 12, 2004
RADIO SWITCH #86 .....PARTS TO FIX YOUR SWITCH WITH PARTS...CONTACTS...WAFERS...ROTARY ASSEMBLYS..SCREWS,..ETC...CONTACT SKIP COLEMAN AT MULTI-TECH..MR COLEMAN IS AREAL FINE GENTLEMAN WHO WILL BEND OVER BACKWARDS TO HELP...........JOHN VE3CNF..


Christian Phillip OZ1LKY
christian@phillip.dk
February 25, 2004
Please help! Does anyone in this bulletin board know where it is possible to find measurement and schematics for the 2 variable capacitors or similes capacitor. I work in a company whit a laser cutterJ so no problem to cut stator and rotor by my self. … Vy 73 de oz1lky


w8zr@arrl.net
February 03, 2004
Check out Terry WQ7A's new EZ-Tuner on the "Builder Photos" link. It's a beauty! --Jim

JEFFREY PEDERSON/KD4LYH
kd4lyh@bellsouth.net
January 20, 2004
I tested the stepper driver boards with the info from Jims posting. I applied a TTL square wave to the step input. I was using a freq. from 60-100 hertz. I tested for CW and CCW rotation. The boards worked flawlessly. Thanks Jim. I am also studying the circuit description. 73,s JEFF


Jim W8ZR
w8zr@arrl.net
January 20, 2004
Hi Jeff, The stepper driver board triggers off the edge (positive going or negative going, depending on the switch setting) of the TTL pulses on the input line. You're getting erratic motion because of the intermittent contact you're making when you ground the input. Yes, you can test the circuit by putting a TTL square wave on the input. The motors will turn at a rate proportional to the frequency of the square wave. You might find it helpful to reread the circuit description section of the website on the stepper driver circuit. Good luck! --Jim


JEFFREY PEDERSON/KD4LYH
kd4lyh@bellsouth.net
January 20, 2004
I'm testing my stepper driver boards. I tied the pin that controls direction High. I took the step input pin and was momentarily touching it to the 5 volt gnd. The stepper would turn somewhat but erratic. Could I use a pulse generator with a TTL output and apply it to the step input pin to get the stepper to free run without the erratic operation as I mentioned before. Is it a continuous train of TTL pulses that makes the steppers run?.




Terry, WQ7A
WQ7A@ARRL.NET
January 09, 2004
Having just completed my EZ-Tuner I have a few left over parts. For sale now are two sets of three stepper motors. These check out fine and are NEMA 23. Each set is for sale at $50, buyer will pay shipping. Hate to put them on e-bay when someone here might need them. You may look at pictures of STEPR1S.JPG and STEPR2S.JPG at: http://www.yelmtel.com/~tdummler/ email at WQ7A@ARRL.NET. Great Project!!!



Billy N6YW
w.yates@att.net
November 09, 2003
Jim... Finally got the Coaxial Dynamics meter. What a beauty. Almost done with the parts collecting, and like Edgar N6OU told me, the fun of this project is finding the parts! I just need the lighted switches and assorted odds and ends. I might even light the meter too. 73 de Billy, N6YW


Richard K. Strobel AG4ZN
gfts4@YAHOO.COM
October 25, 2003
LOOKING TO PURCHASE AN E-Z TUNER AS I AM NOT ABLE TO BUILD ONE. I WOULD CONSIDER HAVING SOMEONE BUILD ONE FOR ME. THANKS 73 AG4ZN


Will K5FM
willshingleton@cox.net
October 20, 2003
I have a Buckeye cabinet that I do not need since I found a brand new one for my tuner. It is the next larger size up from the one used by Jim, I believe the panel is 8.5 inches. This cabinet is equiped to be rack mounted, it has integral rack handles and mounting flanges. It is used and will need a new front panel and possibly rear panel depending on how picky you are,it has a few nicks and chips, but is in pretty good shape.It is natural aluminum with blue trim. I would like $50.00 plus shipping. I can Email pics if needed.


Edgar, N6OU
n6ou@arrl.net
October 18, 2003
I have an EF Johnson # 200-40 coil which is wound with ~0.060" thick by 0.261" high by 3.490" OD by 25 turns by 6.75" long silver plated material. It is 4 TPI for the first 23 turns and 2 TPI for the last two turns. I assume this is more than adequate.


Arno hb9vid
hb9vid¦qsl.net
October 16, 2003
Hi Guys, I'm looking to find all the part for this wonderfull piece of art. And I have one quick question about the digital encoder shaft, that I have to use. what is the number of pulse per revolution ? I think you wright 64/512 is that between 64 and 512 pulse/rev ? And about the SPDT relay (to switch the 50 PF on 160m) can I use a SPST relay and what is the current voltage does I have to look for ? Thanks for the info, Arno (hb9vid)


JOHN FABER VE3CNF
ve3cnf@sympatico.ca
August 05, 2003
IF YOU HAVE PROBLEMS FINDING DOUBLE ENDED STEPPER MOTORS-- THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN DO--- USE A SINGLE ENDED MOTOR AND CAREFULLY DRILL A HOLE IN THE OTHER END OF THE MOTOR SHAFT AND TAP IT FOR A 6-32 MACHINESCREW---DRILL ONLY 1/4 INCH DEEP---PUT TWO HEX NUTS ON THE MACHINE SCREW AND BOTTOM THE SCREW INTO THE BLIND HOLE AND CUT OFF THE HEAD AND ATTACH THE DISK BETWEEN THE HEX NUTS....CANNING JAR LIDS CAN BE USED.. PS ....LOOK UNDER THE LABEL OF THE STEPPER TO FIND THE OTHER END OF THE SHAFT....A SMALL LATHE WOULD BE BEST TO DRILL AND TAP ...GUD LUCK..JOHN (Ed . Note: This is a great suggestion, John. Tnx! -- Jim)


William Yates N6YW
w.yates@att.net
July 31, 2003
Jim... Thank you for the comments. I will go ahead and get the right coil. As for the Bird meter etc...I already have the dual line section with the metering lines. I think the square meter is a real beauty and adds to the elegance of the tuner. I could live with the round meter, but the other looks so much better...just a matter of taste I guess. As to the steppers...Hmmm, I should have known that! A motor is motor, right? Maybe I was a little hesitant because I have never worked with them before. I plan on "Cloning" your project with the exception of the Buckeye case. I am going to "roll my own" and am using a Bud 8 3/4" rack panel for the faceplate w/ handles. It will look great in the rack with the amplifier and will not clutter the radio desk. I am documenting my project with lots of notes and digital photos for submital to your site when I complete the project. I will also include shots of the various tools used as to help the would be first timer. What a great hobby and so many fine folks who help out. It really is fun. Many thanks. 73 de N6YW


Jim W8ZR
w8zr@arrl.net
July 31, 2003
Hi Billy, Sounds like you're making good progress on your EZ-Tuner. I'll try and respond to your three questions.

(1) Identifying Stepper Motor Wires: Unfortunately, there isn't any standardization of the wires, but they're not hard to figure out using trial and error. A six-wire motor has two center-tapped windings. Use an ohmmeter to identify the three wires for each winding. The resistance from the CT to the end of each winding will be half the resistance between the ends. Once you have identified the windings, then just hook them up to your stepper motor controller. If the motor hums and doesn't move, then reverse the ends of ONE of the windings and try again. The motor will either turn CW or CCW. If it turns the wrong way, then just interchange the two windings.

(2)Coaxial Dynamics 30uA meter: The bad news is that you're unlikely to find a surplus one. and news ones cost about $150. The good news is that the meter is basically a standard Simpson 4" meter, with standard Simpson bezel. Simpson makes a 25uA standard meter, which you can substitute, although you'll have to label the scale yourself. Pad the meter with a resistor so it reads 30uS full-scale. Alternately, you can substitute a standard round Bird meter. New ones pop up on EBay regularly for about $75, and used ones for less. Finally, you can forget the Bird wattmeter and just use a different wattmeter. You'll save big $$$ that way.

(3)B&W Coil Substitutions: Yes, you can substitute a 6 TPI coil, but I don't recommend it for two reasons. First, the power capability of #12 wire isn't as great as #10 wire, and second, the polystyrene coil spacers won't handle the high temperatures of the specified Lexan spacers. The coil in any tuner is the weakest link, since that's where almost all the losses and heat occur, and it isn't the place to economize. I'd pay the $125 for a new coil, and save elsewhere.

Good luck! - Jim W8ZR




William Yates N6YW
w.yates@att.net
July 30, 2003
To: Jim W8ZR & "The Gang" Well, I am getting close to getting all of the parts together and of course, little questions come to mind while making the decision to use a certain component that isn't exactly the same as used in the original version built by Mr. Garland. My first question is: Can I use a B&W 3" #12 Ga 6tpi coil instead of the #10 4tpi? At 1500 watts, would this be adequate? I purchased (3) Japan Servo Co. Ltd. stepper motors, 6v @1 amp. These are 6 lead unipolar units that are similar to the types used in this project. How do I identify the leads correctly? Is there a standard for lead color pertaining to what they do? Finally, does anyone have a Coaxial Dynamics 30ua. movement & bezel for sale? I am having difficulty finding one used. I appreciate all contributions and thank you for reading this. Home-brewing isn't dead, it's alive and well in Venice Ca. 73 de N6YW


William Yates
w.yates@att.net
July 29, 2003
Greetings everyone... I did locate the stepper motors, thanks to a gent here on the bulletin board. Also, purchased the bandswitch from N8BX. Nice guy. Now, on to the encoders...yes Jim is correct, they are expensive. I am bidding on a group of 4 that I found on Ebay, and if they are usable, I will pass on the remaining two to whoever needs them, at cost plus shipping. I will post my findings in a couple of days. As other parts become available, I will let everyone know. Good luck! 73 de Billy, N6YW


Randy Williamson AC7NJ
ac7nj@arrl.net
July 24, 2003
I have started to do some work getting readdy to build the tuner. I have chosen to start with the stepper motor. The Jameco catalog also has controlers I have not seen a referance to these to this point? Randy


Fred Freeman - N8BX
n8bx@arrl.net
July 20, 2003
A friend of mine sugested I post some of the surplus parts I have that can be used on the easy tuner. Email me for pictures. All parts have been obtained from surplus MRI units (Erbtec, ETO, GE, Etc.) I don't have many but you are welcome to inquire about anything listed below:

$75 each: Applied Motion Products Stepper Motor with encoder full mesh sensor
$125.00 each: Bird Dual Element Line section. Comes with meter connectors, but no meter, slugs or QC connectors
$50 each: Jennings RJ1A Vacuum Relay)
$50 each: 11 position band switch with silver plated coil. This switch actually has 2 switches ganged. one is 11 positions, the other is 6 positions due to 5 contacts being shorted together via the center wiper. I think this switch is called a #86

.... I do not have the solenoid, please don't ask, I have no idea where to source..... You can email me at n8bx@arrl.net
73 to all, N8BX




Jeffrey
kd4lyh@bellsouth.net
July 02, 2003
Im using the BPI-216 Serial LCD Module as listed in the EZ-Tuner parts list. There is a dipswitch on the Module 2400 or 9600 baud. Which switch setting should I use 2400 or 9600 baud. Any help is appreciated. Jeff KD4LYH


Will Shingleton K5FM
willshingleton@cox.net
July 02, 2003
If you are looking for the stepper motors, I have found Ebay to be a good source. I have found two sets of new double shaft Slo-Syns. With shipping one set was $63.00, the other $75.00. these prices seemed reasonable to me. I have since seen several more sets of 3 double shaft motors offered on Ebay. The Bird dual line sections seem to bring $65-100 with out meter or slugs on Ebay, but I think building in a commercial wattmeter is probably better and a lot cheaper.


William Yates N6YW
w.yates@att.net
May 31, 2003
Greetings to all... I am sure that you have heard this querry before: "Does anyone know where to find the stepper motors?" I have searched and found many alternatives, but not having the time to experiment with the different ones, I have decided to stick with the original parts used in the W8ZR version. So, if anyone has found another surplus source for these motors, please contact me. I am now awaiting a quote from a supplier of Superior Slo-Syn products to see if they are affordable. They sure look nice! If it's worth doing once, it's worth doing it right. Thank you Jim and the rest...73 de Billy N6YW



Tom Detchemendy, K7CSM (The Lead Sled Dog
rtd@nwlink.com
May 16, 2003
I thought it might not be a bad idea to acquire all the parts before I began construction. I emailed Jim to see if he could give me a part number for the Bird dual line section. I emailed that number (4522-002-9) to Bird and requested the price. It sells for $200 and that is without the slugs. The slugs sell on eBay for $40 to $75 each and then you need the meter. I think I will purchade a Diawa SWR meter, take the guts out and put them in my tuner. It may take some juggling of parts to get them all to fit but I think it will be worth it, plus I will have a cross needle display. By the way, can anyone tell me what I mean by lead sled dog? It has to do with my vanity call sign. Be careful, you will date yourself. HI

GEORGE VLAHOS, VK5KGC
gvlahos@iprimus.com.au
April 25, 2003
As many of you builders are aware, the rotary encoders can be a very expensive item. Here in Australia, we can pay up to $150.00 (US) per device. Whilst browsing last week for rotary encoders in the US, I stumbled on an article which uses stepper motors as rotary encoders. (ie - use in reverse to generate a lead / lag pulse). Small steppers of 1.8deg cost next to nothing. You will need to use an external micro controller. Follow the link below for more info. This site is great, and explains in full detail how to implement. members.iinet.net.au/~richardh/Rotenc.htm Regards, George, VK5KGC


N9NRW
n9nrw@arrl.net
March 10, 2003
Has anyone given any thought into a remote implementation? I am thinking that I would like to feed the turner at the tower with coax. Some ideas…… Remote mount just the controls in the shack? PC control with something like RS485 out the unit? Temp and moisture considerations? Just thinking out loud ……


Sam M0DCR
sam_cqdx@yahoo.com
February 21, 2003
Hi Jim I have decided to get a roller inductor instead of a fixed coil as they are just too expensive,saw there was a small article in qst about using a roller coil ,have no acces to qst, could you or any one give me more info on using that instead and what are the benefits of using one .... Nearly have all the parts now . Thanks Jim


Jim W8ZR
w8zr@arrl.net
February 02, 2003
Hi Sam, Thanks for your kind words. I'm afraid I don't understand your remark about the IC. I looked again at the boards and the insertion direction seems clearly labeleled. The square pad (to the left of the notch) signifies pin 1.

Let me suggest you reconsider your plans to use a 7.5 degree stepper motor to turn the inductor switch. I suspect yuu'd find 7.5 degree motors don't have enough torque-at least for NEMA size 23 motors (or smaller). Better instead to gear down a 1.8 degree motor, so you'll have plenty of turning power. You can download a program for using a stepper motor for the inductor switch, and can patch it for any desired stepper angle. Unfortunately, the demands of my job won't let me provide much 1-on-1 assistance to guys, but the code is thoroughly annotated and understandable, so you shouldn't have much difficulty patching it. Good luck! Jim




Sam M0DCR
sam_cqdx@yahoo.com
February 01, 2003
Hi Jim, Received the PCBs in the post two days ago and nearly fininshed building them in one day. It was a long night, believe me! They're great PCBs, but one minor thing I notice is that the IC does not align with the number but the notch instead (after a bit of track tracing). Jim , I decided to go for a 7.5 degree stepper motor for the inductor switch instead of the solenoid. What will I need to change on the program and where? Do you perhaps have a tweaked up version somewhere for a 7.5 degree stepper? Thanks for a great project!!


Will K5FM
willshingleton@cox.net
January 31, 2003
I am building a version of the tuner to be used with an Alpha 87. While the tuner is designed to operate at the legal limit, I am conceren about "hot-switching" the inductor switch and also having other than a 50 ohm load presented to the Alpha while the tuner changes settings. I think I am going to add a amplifier enable line that will take the Alpha offline when the tuner retunes. Anyone have any thoughts on this?


w8zr@arrl.net
January 24, 2003
Sam, the EZ-Tuner control circuitry could certainly be used to adjust the tank circuit in an homebrew autotune amp. You'd want to tweak the code a bit (e.g., to take the amp off-line while it was retuning itself), but I'd think it would be a straightforward job. Obviously the RF components would have to be changed from a T-network to the Pi or Pi-L network appropriate to the tubes' plate impedance. -Jim


Sam M0DCR
sam_cqdx@yahoo.com
January 23, 2003
Could a person remove the twin capacitor and replace it with another variable cap, configure it as a PI and use it in a 3-500z amplifier?


Sam M0DCR
sam_cqdx@yahoo.com
January 22, 2003
Hi there ,just a small idea!Jim would i still need to isolate the variable caps from ground and remove the toroid transformer if i wanted to incorporate this tuner into a 3500z amplifiers tuning circuit? Any sugestions and is it possible?


sam_cqdx@yahoo.com
January 17, 2003
What a great project you have put together there JIM!10/10.I am looking for a complete unconstructed kit and all parts for this project or any one that can make me an offer,please!Where I come from even the toroids are hard to get (South Africa). Please help,any one! Thanks, Jim, keep up the great hard work,73! To all.


Jim W8ZR
w8zr@arrl.net
January 15, 2003
Hi John, You're right that there's an inconsistency between the value of L1 shown on the diagram (0.7uH) and in the parts listing (1.1uH)! Don't know how that happened, but the correct value is 0.7uH. In any case, the value is too small to measure reliably with a digital L-meter, so the value is just a ballpark figure. It's best to use the procedure outlined in the QST article to set the coil taps. However, you'll be close to the mark if you wind L1 on a 1.5 inch form, using 3/16 in tubing, and just eyeball the spacing to look like the coil in the photo on the "Construction Details" page. - Jim


John, N0IB
n0ib@arrl.net
January 15, 2003
Jim, Schmatic sheet 5 0f 5 shows the connection of L1 at L2 to be 0.7 uH and the description below it say 1.1 uH on 1.5 inch dia. I wound my L1, 1.5 inch inside dia. with 1/8 inch spacing and measured 0.6 uH on an AADE L/C meter. Is this acceptable? (Used 3/16 thin wall copper tube)


Jim W8ZR
w8zr@arrl.net
January 14, 2003
Bleeders are a good idea. However, none are needed for the 12V supply, since the panel lights serve that task. For the 24V supply, a 2.2K resistor will draw 10mA and should work just fine. Use at least a 1/2 W resistor. -Jim


N9BNB
bjcoe@tk7.net
January 14, 2003
Bleeder resistors across the 10,000 micro-Farad power supply capacitors are a good idea in my book. The ARRL handbook suggests 100 Ohms of resistance per volt. Therefore I am using a 2.2K Ohm resistor for the 20V supply and 1.2K Ohm for the 12V supply. Also, first hand experience shows that slow blowing fuses are needed if they are used in the secondary side of the transformer circuit with large filter capacitors. 73's and stay tuned for photos!


Jim W8ZR
w8zr@arrl.net
January 04, 2003
Hi John: Hookup data for the gear-reduced stepper motor should have been sent with your kit. Unfortunately, that's all the info I have about the motor. I bought the entire inventory of the motors from a surplus house, and they didn't know anything about them. The hookup data is as follows:
12VDC/0.34A, unipolar, 1.8 deg/step (before reduction
Gear reduction: 30:1 (6000 steps = 1 revolution)
Wire colors: Winding 1: Green --White (CT)--Green/White
. Winding 2: Red -- Black (CT) -- Red/White



n0ib@arrl.net
January 03, 2003
Jim, I bought the number four kit you offered that had the stepper motor for the inductor. The sticker on that motor says "Applied Motion Products Inc". Do you know where I can get a spec sheet for it or any other info? Thanks


MAC N4PMG
N4PMG@MSN.COM
December 19, 2002


I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN BUYING ONE OF THE HIGH POWER EZ-TUNERS THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN PROFESSIONALLY BUILT. I WOULD APPRECIATE ANY SUGGESTIONS OR ASSISTANCE. THANKS, MAC N4PMG


V.RAMKUMAR
vr.engg@fie.co.in
November 22, 2002
We need indexing solenoid probably 45deg indexing. Required Size Dia 7mm x 30mm Long. Shaft Size 3mm Electronically controlled.


tommy humphrey WD4MLW
htommy@hotmail.com
November 14, 2002
JIM, Looking to buy a completed EZ_TUNER for a blind ham. Any help wpuld be greatly appreciated. WD4MLW Tommy


Dave KO4XR
dwschr@cox.net
October 29, 2002
I have 14 Oriental Motor Co. Model PK264-01A VEXTA single shaft stepper motors: Unipolar (6 lead), 1.8 deg/step, 5.7 ohms, 1.0 A. Jim looked at the specs and said the motors will work in the EZ Tuner - providing stepper motor board resistors R207 and R215, that limit the current through the center tap of the motor windings, be adjusted in value so that the 1.0 Amp motor rating is not exceeded. Catalog info can be found at: http://www.orientalmotor.com/products/pdfs/SteppingMotors/2PhaseStep_B267-B288.PDF I paid $10.00 USD each for the motors. If you want a pair or 3 motors, you can have them for the same $10.00 each plus shipping by sending an e-mail request to me at dwschr@cox.net. You can pay me (check/money order)after you receive the motors.


Oluf Henriksen oz6og
ohenrik@get2net.dk
October 19, 2002
HI. I am having trouble getting the stepper motors for this project. There is a guy here on this board (mrrogers@pub.zj.jsinfo.net)offering to deliver these motors. Has anyone (succesfully) tried to buy stepper motors from this gentleman? Regards


Jim W8ZR
w8zr@arrl.net
October 13, 2002
HINT: If you having trouble getting your limit detect circuits to work reliably, then try turning off the lights in the room. The optical sensors can be confused if there is too much ambient light. -Jim


Jim W8ZR
w8zr@arrl.net
October 13, 2002
Hi Gang, Some builders have reported problems with their stepper motors slipping and not tracking correctly. The fix is to slow down the control pulses in the code. You can do this by lengthening the pulses and also by increasing the delay between pulses.

You can increase the pulse length, by changing the PULSOUT command. For example, in the initialization routine at the start of the program, Stepper 1 is controlled with the following two instructions:

PULSOUT 13,10
PAUSE 20

The first number after the PULSOUT is the port on the BS2SX (which you should not change) and the second number is the length of the pulse. For the BS2SX, a "10" corresponds to an 8 microsecond pulse. If you change it, for example, to a "20" (e.g., PULSOUT 13, 20) you'd increase the pulse to 16 microseconds.

The delay between pulses is determined by the PAUSE instruction. PAUSE 20 corresponds to a 20 millisecond delay. If you change it, for instance, to PAUSE 30, you'd have a 30 millisecond delay. Keep in mind that the PULSOUT and PAUSE commands appear in several places in the program. You can find them all by using the search command in the Basic Stamp editor.

I'd recommend you start by changing only the PAUSE and leaving the PULSOUT alone. You can tweak the PULSOUT if you can't fix things using only the PAUSE. Obviously, the more you increase the pause, the slower the motors will turn. You'll probably want to experiment a bit to find the shortest pause that doesn't allow any stepper slipping. Also, make the changes for one motor at a time. After you get the C1 motor just the way you want it, then make the changes on the other motors. -Jim




Jim W8ZR
w8zr@arrl.net
October 09, 2002
To Rod W4SI: The limit switch on the bandswitch should close (i.e., be grounded), when the bandswitch is in its unused (12th) position. On my bandswitch there are 12 possible steps, but contacts are only installed on eleven of them. The contact to the wiper is on the 12th. The limit switch closes when the wiper rotates to the 12th position. Then, position one corresponds to the 0.3 uH tap, position two to the 0.4uH tap, and so forth, up to position eleven, which has no connection to it and which corresponds to the full 20.5 uH coil. If you've not hooked your switch up that way, you can still make things work by altering the software. You'd have to patch the code so that the wiper position of the bandswitch is passed by when the bandswitch rotates. Unfortunately, this is harder to put into words than to describe, so I hope this is clear. 73, Jim


Rod, W4SI
w4si@arrl.net
October 09, 2002
Jim, I found references within your documentation that indicate that the capacitors should be set to full mesh (max capacity) when the slot in the limit detector disk is reached. I could have missed it but so far I have not found a reference to where the inductor switch should be set when the limit switch is closed. Since the limit switch on my rotary solenoid is on a small waffer right on the shaft of the solenoid it is not adjustable. I had considerable difficulty with the solenoid output shaft slipping in the shaft coupler that connects the solenoid output shaft (less than .25 inch) to the #86 swith shaft (.25 inch) In the end I had to drill and pin the coupler to the shaft to stop the slippage. I pinned the coupler in such a position that when the grub screw in the inductor switch end of the coupler sits on the flat of the switch shaft the switch is in the open or greatest inductance position (the 12th position). Boy, I hope this is the right position. Otherwise I'll have to drill and thread new grub screw holes in the coupler. What do you think? Am I in the wrong position? If so is there an easier fix in software such as changing entries in a table or should I just go ahead and do the metal work? Since I haven't wired any inductor taps to the switch it may be posible to adjust for an error in position when connecting the taps. Thanks for your advice. Rod


Mike, K8LH
k8lh@arr.net
October 06, 2002
Jim, bravo on a wonderful and exciting project and web site... You've inspired me and I'm hoping to automate the operation of my trusty old SB-201 amplifier... I just purchased three (3) 5v/1a Nema 23 59 oz/in Unipolar Stepper Motors on eBay and I was wondering if you think these will have enough power and torque to turn the SB-201 Load and Tune capacitors using direct drive??? Very 73, Tailwinds (pilot speak), Mike - K8LH (Westland, MI)


Tom Georgens W2SC
tom.georgens@lsil.com
September 26, 2002
Jim's great article motivated me to embark on a related project to retrofit an existing amplifier for auto(memory)tune functionality. I redid the hardware and software and it appears to work fine in the mock-up but I am having a mechanical problem. When mounted, the stepper motors do not step repeatably. Specifically, 200 steps will produce 360 to 400 degrees of rotation. Perfectly positioning the motor will solve the problem but any lateral stress at all on the motor shaft seems to produce irregular stepping. This is true of all the motors I tried. My only theories are that any stress on the shaft causes the motor to misstep, or, the stress may result in transients on the motor leads that are impacting the stepper control chip (ULN5804B) I am using. When not mounted on the amp, the motors step precisely every time. I am going to breadboard a test that bypasses the control chips to check out the transient issue but I am open to suggestions since I do not know much about motors. Thanks for any advice and thanks to Jim for one of the best QST articles I have ever seen. 73, Tom W2SC


Brooke
starryjuliet8101@yahoo.com
September 25, 2002
I NEED HELP! Im in high school...building this thing for science olymaid. its called a mission possible...im trying to set up a circit with photo cells, resistors, diodes, capacitors...and i have no idea what im doing. can comeone here help me?


Donlin Crisman W5DDC
dallas@aol.com
September 24, 2002
I have 4 sets of 7kv 47pf caps available at 3.50 a set plus postage. These are of Russian origin and have wide lead tabs with holes drilled in them for attachment. I also have a stock of 4 pole 11 position switches that while they are not rated for the current that the #86 is they can be used to drive vacuum relays to select the coil tap positions. These are available for 5.00 each plus shipping.


Jim W8ZR
w8zr@arrl.net
September 23, 2002
Stepper Motor Glitches: If your stepper motor seems to behave erratically, the reason is that it can't keep up with the control pulses. This is most likely to occur with the switch stepper, because the software was written for a small geared-down stepper which is very fast. If your stepper is showing this symptom, then go to the subroutine "swstep:" and change "PAUSE 2" to "PAUSE 10." Also, if your switch is turning the wrong direction, because of your gear reduction, you'll need to reverse the rotation direction in the code. You'll change "OUT14=1" to "OUT14=0" and vice-versa, everywhere it appears. Email me if you have any problems, and I'll give you more explicit instructions. 73, Jim


Jim W8ZR
w8zr@arrl.net
September 16, 2002
Tommy, since you've got the necessary test equipment, the best method for setting taps is the one detailed in QST(June 2002 issue). Another option (easier but not quite as accurate) is to use the method posted on this list on July 27. Can't wait to see your finished tuner. To the other builders on the list: I appreciate all the pix you've sent me of your projects. When I get time, I'll post a "rogues gallery" of EZ-Tuners on the site. 73, Jim


Tom Beard (W4KVA)
beard6@gte.net
September 14, 2002
I Have Just About Finished Wiring My EZtuner WOuld Like To Know The Simple/Easy Way To Set The Taps I Have A L/C Meter IIB,MFJ-259B,Mfj-204b,Autec RF-1,And A Millen GDO,50 Ohm Dummy Load.Freq.Counter.I Purchased The Buckeye Case But Did Not Like It I Fabricated My Own.The Face Plate Is Reverse Engraved Black Plastic With White Lettering With EZtuner In Red. Thanks Tommy


Bob N8LVA
jwiesman@woh.rr.com
September 04, 2002
Hello Jim, I just did find this web page and I love it! If you ask me a real radio does glow in the dark. I haven't been on the air much but I do hope to get back on soon and burn up a little rf soon. Take care, Bob


Jim W8ZR
w8zr@arrl.net
August 15, 2002
Congrats, Wayne and George! You're the first builders to complete the EZ-Tuner, and you did it in record time! It really makes me feel good to know there are some other ones out there. Once a few more are finished, I'll schedule an on-air get-together so we can all compare notes. You're right about storing the settings. If you're transmitting in the AUTO mode, it's necessary to drop the r.f. momentarily, or the tuner won't let you switch to the MANUAL mode. You can tune with r.f. present in the MANUAL mode, of course, but you have to drop the carrier again to store the settings. Doing so becomes instinctive after a time or two, but can seem confusing at first. --Jim


Wayne Galaugher VE7ZNU
wgalaugher@shaw.ca
August 15, 2002
George and I just finished our tuners and I fired mine up at our club since we have all the the antennas and amps at our disposal. Everything worked as advertised on all bands. Its nice to see all that hard work come to life. A few things I would like to add about discoveries along the way. One problem that gave us the yips was the width of the slot on the photo interupter discs. We made them a bit wide on the first pass and discovered that when the first capacitor found its zero position it didn't back up enough to take the line high. I tried adding more backup steps to the program but I discovered that there is not very much room left in the program space to add code. So we had to make the slits in the discs very narrow to avoid the problem. So for those of you still building; pay attention. If either stepper does not reset the interupter line, you will have problems. The other problem was storing new values for the capacitors while tuning up an antenna on a band. You tune in AUTO mode starting at the beginning of the band and observe the SWR. If the SWR is not 1:1 take it out of AUTO mode and tune the caps until the swr is 1:1. At this point, do not feed any r.f. to the tuner, and press the mode button until you hear the beep and those values are now stored. Go up the band in AUTO mode until the SWR goes up and repeat the process. In other words, don't send any r.f. to the tuner when storing new settings or else the tuner will just go the old settngs and you will have to repeat the whole process. Other than that, no problems other than our own stupidity at times. I tell you I had a group of guys that had their tongues hanging out saying "Can you build me one?". Yah right! I will send Jim some photos of the finished product. Thanks Jim for a great project. Can't wait for the next one. Maybe an integrated amp. Look out Acom!!


Jim W8ZR
w8zr@arrl.net
August 13, 2002
Reply to Milt: No, an 1/8" shouldn't make much difference in the VSWR, unless you're loading an oddball impedance with very sharp tuning on 10 meters. -Jim


Milt W6rjo
shulmilt@earthlink.net
August 12, 2002
Hi Jim:Again I am poised-ready to install the coil taps.Is the tap placement very sensitive to position on the coil?That is;If I move the tap an eigth of an inch,will the SWR jump from a low value to 5 - 10 times its previous value?.Please comment. Thanks Milt.


Jim W8ZR
w8zr@arrl.net
August 08, 2002
Hi Gang, I came across an interesting power supply in the Marlin P. Jones monthly specials newsletter. It's a regulated supply that provides 5.2V @ 6A and 24V @ 6A. If you've got room in your cabinet, it would make a great EZ-Tuner supply. Oh yeah, the price? $4.95! If you get one, better buy a spare, too. The URL is http://www.mpja.com/allpictspl.asp?dept=2878product=13222+PS (all one line)-- Jim


Rich KC8RPD
machinist@ohioweb.net
August 04, 2002
Having read some of the posts here, I may be able to help with the mechanical fabrication. I am a tool&diemaker who operates his own shop part time, and am interested in constructing the tuner. I'm willing to trade on my skills in exchange for parts. Interested parties (hopefully a sufficient number to bring down material costs) please email. Rich


Jim W8ZR
w8zr@arrl.net
August 01, 2002
Hi Dave, I've given a little thought to remoting the RF parts of the tuner and having a small control console on the operating table. It could probably be done as you suggest, though I'd be inclined to put the controller board in the console and the stepper boards in the remote unit. The challenge would be to keep RF from wiping out the controller circuits. You'd have to be very careful to use high quality shielded cable between the two units, and would probably need to hold the cable length to six feet or so. A more elegant solution would be to use a bus driver circuit to exchange data via a high speed serial port; of course that would entail a complete circuit redesign. One point to keep in mind is that the EZ-Tuner is designed to run completely unattended in the automatic mode. Once you've got the memories stored, you can locate the tuner in the next room if you like. If there's a power failure it powers up in the auto mode and restores the last used settings. There's really no need to keep it on the operating table (except to admire, of course!). --Jim


Dave WB9ROC
WB9ROC@ARRL.NET
August 01, 2002
Jim, this is an excellent project, thank you. Have you or anyone else given any thought of remote control? It looks like it would be easy just to take all the front panel components and put them in another box, then connect the two with cable. 73's Dave


Jim W8ZR
w8zr@arrl.net
July 30, 2002
Thanks for your nice comments, Phil. My disks were scrounged off some surplus motors, and I'm afraid I can't refer you to a source. However, they're easy to make. Just cut the disk out of thin aluminum or brass sheet (brass shim stock is available at most hardware and hobby supply stores). Then, drill or punch a hole in the disk's center for a grommet having a 1/4 in. ID, and a small hole near the rim for the light beam. (Obviously, you can cut a slot as well for the beam). The grommet will make a nice friction fit on the motor shaft, and can be secured to the shaft with a dab of silicone caulking compound. --Jim


Phil Heck KE3EI
pdheck@hotmail.com
July 30, 2002
Jim, Ecellent project! In the process of collecting parts, I could not find the source for the slotted disc used with the photo interrupters. Thought I had seen them somewhere but now I can't remember where. Any help is appreciated! 73, Phil


Jim W8ZR
w8zr@arrl.net
July 27, 2002
To Milt W6RJO: Your sig. gen. won't be much help in setting taps, because the power level is so low you won't get any SWR indication on your meter. However, it IS possible to set the taps by using a ham-band-only transceiver and a 50 ohm dummy load. To use this method, you'll also need to measure accurately (within a few pF) the capacitance of the output capacitor C2.

Here's the procedure: Set the output cap C2 at the values shown in the table for each tap, and the transceiver at the frequencies in the table. Then, keeping C2 fixed, vary the tap position and C1 until you get a 1:1 SWR reading on your meter. That point is the correct tap position. (Hint: when the SWR is 1:1, C1 will turn out to be practically the same value as C2.) This method isn't quite as accurate as the method shown in QST, but should work just fine. -Jim

TAP___ FREQ___ C2(pF)
1_____ 28.0_____ 100
2_____ 21.0_____ 100
3_____ 14.0_____ 110
4_____10.1_____ 150
5____ 10.1______ 105
6_____7.0______ 180
7____ 7.0_______ 115
8____ 7.0_______ 85
9____ 3.5_______ 235
10___ 3.5______ 100
11___ 1.8______ 190




Milt W6rjo
shulmilt@earthlink.net
July 26, 2002
Hi Jim:Still closing in to get ready to place the coil taps.But no MFJ gear or general coverage transceiver to do the job. I have an rf general coverage signal generator and a freq counter for reas0nable accuracy tuning. How about using that system? Would there be impdeance and or low power difficulties using this arrangement? Secondly,for your 10 meter band you use about 25 MHz as the freq to tune to-why not 28 MHz? Would appreciate response as soon as practicable.Thanks. Milt.


Jim Tonne WB6BLD
wb6bld@qsl.net
July 22, 2002
If you fellows are using analog meter movements for measuring power output, draw your own meter scales using freebie meter-scale-drawing program I have posted on my site. Go to www.qsl.net/wb6bld and select Software. Then go to Meter. You will need an HP Laserjet to use it best but you can draw a power scale real quick-like, as they say here! And check the K8CU site for suggestions on how to use Meter as a driving engine to feed drafting program. Cheers! -jt


Jim W8ZR
w8zr@arrl.net
July 22, 2002
Reply to Milt, W6RJO: Part 3 (June QST) of my article describes a simple method for placing the taps. I used .062in solder between the coil and the switch as a temporary hookup while locating the right spot on the coil. After I located the tap by trial and error, I then formed the solder so that it routed neatly. Then I removed the solder carefully (without distoring the shape) and then dublicated the shape with #10 tinned copper wire. The solder is much easier to work with than #10 copper. Hope this clarifies the procedure. --Jim


Milt w6rjo
shulmilt@earthlink.net
July 20, 2002
Hi Jim: Coming along with my mechanical version.I am nearing the coil tap connections.I recall your article saying using solder to mimic the tap routing connections.What bothers me is tha if you dont know what a tap position is a priori how will you use solder to establish the tap route? I am sure that you dont mean to use solder as an rf connector lead. Mabe I'm not thinking. Thanks Milt.


Rogers
mrrogers@pub.zj.jsinfo.net
July 08, 2002
Our company is commercial manufacturer and international supplier of stepper motors.We have a NEMA23 size motor for EZ turner use, it's dual shaft design. Anyone who need please contact me


Jim W8ZR
w8zr@arrl.net
June 25, 2002
Hi Gang, It's great to read your progress reports, especially some of the inventive ideas and substitutions. You guys are really going great guns, and I can't wait to see some of the finished units. To Milt, W6RJO: If you like, you can reverse the left-to-right order of the RF components. In my tuner, the layout was dictated by the need to maintain adequate clearance between the stepper motors and the front panel components. As I recall, if I reversed everything (so that the output cap was on the right side, instead of the left), I had problems clearing some of the pushbuttons.As for the 4:1 balun, as opposed to a 9:1 balun, I wanted to preserve the low-Z matching range as much as possible. A 9:1 balun is just fine, however. 73, Jim w8zr


Milt W6rjo
shulmilt@earthlink.net
June 24, 2002
Hi Jim: A couple of questions.I am building the manual version. (1) I notice that your rf construction (from the front)is a mirror image of the corresponding circuit diagram.Did you have a particular reason for it? (2)Your balun has a 4:1 ratio.The usual 50 ohm output then gives 200 ohms-an uninteresting output impedance it seems to me.I am using a guanella balun with the same three T200 cores to yield a 9:1 ratio,or 450 ohms.The usual two inch open wire line is about 450 ohms-more interesting,no? Please comment by email or here. thanks. Milt. w6rjo


Dave Rogers WB4CHK
Davewb4@aol.com
June 24, 2002
My EZ Tuner so far: I have completed all mechanical and electonics. Everything is mounted and just waiting for the arrival of the BS2sx this week. I have documented the progress with a digital camcorder and have lots of pictures of all stages of construction. I will start setting L1 & L2 taps when the chip gets here.The particulars are: Using three stepper motors ( Jims top kit with geared stepper motor for rotary switch) My rotary switch has only one wafer since I am using a single gang C1 (20 to 450pf) My rotary has 18 contacts thru 360 degrees or 20 degrees per contact.( Compared to Jims 12 contacts or 30 degrees per contact) That works out to a change to 333.333 counts per contact compared to Jims 500 counts per contact source code. Since the stamp basic can only handle integer arithematic I will have to choose either 333 or 334 or something around there. It will not make much difference because the difference between 3333 and 334 or 335 is only a fraction of contact movement. I built a stepper motor driver using an Allegro UCN5804 and a an LM555 for a pulse train. This was only to check stepper motor operation and set limit switches since I did not have the Stamp, I will use Jims stepper motor drivers. I am using 3 Kilovac HC-1 vacuum relays for switching. ( 2 spdt tied together for in/ out.) I used Tyco .100 and .156 connectors because they are easier to handle than Molex and the 2 setting tools are a fraction of the cost of same tool in Molex. Both front and rear panels are plug connected ( 11 plugs and recpt for the front panel alone That's a bunch of male and female pins to crimp and solder.)The power supply is mounted on the sub panel and the two pwr xmers are mounted on the stepper mounting plate. The enclosure is a modified Dentron MLA 2500 case with new front & rear panels and new top cover. The meter is a Drake W4 also plug connected to the front panel.The rest is as per Jim's plan. Again I have lots of pictures and if any one is stuck on something I will be happy to e-mail a picture of that part so you can get an idea how somebody else handled it. Happy Building!! Dave


Wayne Galaugher VE7ZNU
wayne.galaugher@telus.net
June 24, 2002
I thought I would give the group an update on the project. As others have reported, the boards and the software work very well. Jim did a great job. We have built all of the electronics and are working on the RF deck and putting everything into an HP8404 voltmeter case (Ebay $50). We are also using a third stepper motor for the rotary switch( another hard part to get cheap. I found a source of 7.5 degree steppers for $15 canadian that work very well without gearing and has more than enough torque to rotate the switch. These are 7.5 volt 6 wire unipolar that use 24 ohm resistors to limit the current to 1 amp. It was easy to change the software to step without gears. We managed to get a drake w4 watt meter to sense the swr at a good price. The only real expenses were the Vari caps and BW coil. The other find was an LCD backpac from Scott Edwards. I had a few LCDs kicking around and didn't want to purchase a whole backlit serial LCD. Scott Edwards sells a nice little board that takes serial input and outputs to a 14 pin LCD. This seems to be the only one that works since others use different codes to clear screen and position the cursor. If you others a major rewrite of the software would be necessary. Will keep you posted on our progress. Back to the metal work YUK!


Rodney Harper, W4SI
w4si@arrl.net
June 24, 2002
I sent an email message to Terry WQ7A asking about his progress with the EZTUNER and we exchanged some of our experiences with acquiring parts and assembly etc. I mentioned that it would be nice to hear from others on the subject and within a day or two Jim posted his comment about using the bulletin board for such comments. Here are mine. The boards are indeed high quality well laid out boards with no crowding of parts and no hard to solder areas. The digital part of the project is built of inexpensive components with the exception of the BS2SX micro-controller. For this reason I decided to start with the digital portion. I had a goodly number of the PCB components on hand in my junque box . Capacitors, diodes, IC’s etc. I ordered the other parts needed for the boards and while waiting for them to arrive I did my research on finding stepper motors and rotary solenoids. My steppers came from Jameco part 162026 @ $24.95 each. These are good little motors with lots of torque but they have no rear shaft so some improvising is in order to find a way to mount the limit detect optical switches. The rotary solenoid came from Surplus Sales of Nebraska part (SWR)5-53523-109 @ $25.00. Some modification is required but is mostly confined to removing unneeded parts. The first powered tests were done with one stepper motor and one stepper driver board. I built my power supplies with terminal strips attached to an 8 by 12 inch piece of pine board with wood screws. It is a very good idea to include fuses in the power supply mock up. Connectors were made up to connect both 24 Volt and 5 volt supplies plus the stepper motor to the drive board. After the dip switch is set up properly the motor can be made to step by touching the step input line with a clip lead connected to the 5V ground. Direction can be changed by grounding or ungrounding the direction pin. Great! The stepper steps, but sometimes in the wrong direction. If you mock up a stepper channel the way I did and you encounter some reliability problems with the direction of step don’t worry about it. It is probably just a function of the ratty step signal you get by touching the step pin with a clip lead. When the processor board controls the stepper it does as it is told. Also be aware that with the step pin ungrounded the stepper motor will remain energized. In this condition you can feel the torque that your motor has but over a period of time the resistors will get hot and even the motor itself will heat up. This too will be corrected when the CPU is in control of the stepper driver.


Larry, W4WIV
mcmillen@voicenet.com
June 21, 2002
Hi All, Thought I would share a progress report. I have the EZ-Tuner bread boarded on my bench. I am using three spepper motors instead of the Rotary Solenoid. All software functions seem to work great, both in the auto and manual modes. I am using a 10 PF capacitor (C5) in series with a 1 meg.potentiometer instead of the custom capacitor Jim uses. Other than that, the bread board is as per drawings. I do not yet have C1, C2, C3, C4, L1, and L2 in their RF configuration. I am simply sampling the rf out of a Yaesu FT-847 into a dummy load. I will complete the rf portion when I package in the final configuration. My E-Mail address is "mcmillen@voicenet.com" if anyone would like to compare notes.


JOHN VE3CNF
ve3cnf@computan.on.ca
June 19, 2002
Brand new rotary switch for EZ-tuner.....# 86 as recommended by Jim w8zr....7KV-30 AMP ....PAID $219.00 for it last month. Selling on behalf of friend who is not going to use it....


Herbert M. Rosenthal W5AN
June 16, 2002
EZ Tuner builders Jim has encouraged me to post this ebay listing of LEDEX steppers I have for sale: LEDEX ROTARY SWITCHES 18-24vdc steppers Item # 1741653907 Good luck! Herb Rosenthal W5AN


Jim W8ZR
w8zr@arrl.net
June 13, 2002
Gang, many of you have emailed me about your progress on your ez-tuner, and I always enjoy hearing your comments. Let me suggest that you also share your progress reports here; if nothing else, they would provide moral support for the guys who aren't as far along as you. Also, be sure and send me photos of your completed (or partially completed) project, and I'll post them on the site. --Jim


Terry, WQ7A
wq7a@arrl.net
June 02, 2002
It appears that I will be placing an order with B & W within the next week or so. If you have anything that you would like me to add to my order, drop me an e-mail. Prepayment not necessary. No profits taken here... Terry

Tim Yeatman
va2tpy@rac.ca
May 24, 2002
Coil Clamps Go to the local metal scrapyard, get some 18 ga copper sheet, bend around a #14 ga wire in a vise, punch or drill small hole and tin with solder. Total cost, probably 2 bucks and an hours time(I'm slow, retired)


milt w6rjo
shulmilt@earthlink.net
May 24, 2002
Jim-thanks for your answer that the coil clamps can be gotton from B&W for about a buck apiece.But they have a $25 min order.Being a builder purist (and a cheapskate) I wonder if you can supply a blown-up sketch of a clamp ,or equivalent info so I can make one.I think its a case of just shorten up a thigamabob and giving it a gimlet twist and voila-you have got a neat coil clamp that will do the job.Thans again.73


Joe Ostering N2CJF
jjo1@comcast.net
May 19, 2002
Looking to paint and silkscreen the tuner professionally? Contact me, very resonable. Looking to help you homebrewers out.


Rich Merhar WE8T
we8t@arrl.net
May 19, 2002
Hello I saw your EZ-Tuner Friday at the Dayton Hamvention. I didn't speak to you, but your tuner is one great looking work! I had a couple of ideas for some of those people that won't be able to afford the high cost (like me!) of the tuner RF deck. I found a Dentron MT2000 3KW antenna tuner at Dayton, price $150. It has the T type tuner. And built really well. It's exactly what I was looking for. And my idea is to automate the MT2000 by removing the knowbs, and attaching a front plate with all the appropriate stepping motors. I think this would be a good second option for most of those people who don't want to attack the complete RF deck. Also, I think the Bird watt meter is overdoing it a little, I will plan on adding on a Drake W4. More to come- Tnx Rich WE8T


Red Blanchard W6AG
red@redblanchard.com
May 17, 2002
I just saw your June QST article, and I am very impressed by your excellent construction skills. However, isn't this just another basic T-network tuner like most of the others?? Just asking. Red


Donlin W5DDC
Dallas@aol.com
May 17, 2002
I have 3 extra Ceramic 11 position 4 pole silver plated contact switches that I will let go for 10 bucks each plus shipping. They look to be modifiable to 2 pole. These were New unused stock.


Dave Rogers
davewb4@AOL.com
May 17, 2002
IF anyone is going to order from B&W I would like to add to your order. Just need some coil clips but it's not enough for their minimum order ($25.00) Of course will send you money and postage in advance. Thanks


Tim va2tpy
va2tpy@rac.ca
May 16, 2002
ULN2069B were bought at Active Electronics in store in Montreal. They didn't have enough stock to cover what I needed but got it the next day. Better prices in general than Digikey to my great surprise. My boards are more than half completed. I'm looking at replacing that expensive BS2SX with just a pic and Pic Basic compiler. Also looking at a cheap alternative to the serial lcd backpack board which is just another pic anyways. Will keep all postd.


Bill Evans VE4UD
bevans@ebsys.mb.ca
May 14, 2002
Terrific series! Even if one didn't need or want a tuner, the discussion of various tuner configuration pros and cons and the range of matching information was invaluable. Having T and SPC tuners, I could well identify with the strengths and limitations of each - particularly on 160M. Question is - how do Pi network tuners fit? What are their strengths and weaknesses? How do they compare with a good T? I currently use an Ameritron ATR-30. Only tuner I could get to handle high power properly on 160m. It is a Pi. Your comments would be much appreciated. 73 es tu


Russell N6EU
N6EU@arrl.net
May 12, 2002
Ordered the board set. What a great job you did! If only the commercial manufacturers would take note and offer a tuner of this quality. 73 Russell Chatsworth CA


Edgar, N6OU
n6ou@arrl.net
May 12, 2002
August 1984, Ham Radio, pages 37 & 38 contain an article on Constucting air-wound coils of 2 to 4 inches in diameter. Which may be of interest


Jim W8ZR
w8zr@arrl.net
May 03, 2002
Although Mouser currently stocks the ULN2069B 1.5A quad darlington driver ICs, their supply is getting limited. To be on the safe side, I bought a couple of hundred, and as of today am now supplying one with each new stepper motor driver board ordered. If you've already bought your boards, then I'd appreciate your buying the chips from Mouser while they're available, rather than from me. Tnx. --Jim W8ZR


Rodney Harper
w4si@arrl.net
May 01, 2002
The Ledex rotary solenoid that Jim uses is more than simply a rotary solenoid. It is in fact an indexing or racheting rotary solenoid. When Jim applies power to the Ledex it moves from zero degrees to 30 degrees. When power is removed the solenoid stays at 30 degrees and on the next subsequent pulse it moves to 60 degrees and then to 90, 120, 150 etc. until it rotates all the way around to zero degrees again. Many rotary solenoids ( I believe the Shindengen rotary solenoids are of this type) rotate from 0 degrees to some position(maybe 30 degrees) when power is applied and then rotate back to 0 degrees when power is removed. This is okay for operating a lever but it will not rotate your inductor switch without adapting some sort of ratcheting device between the solenoid and the switch shaft. If anyone locates a supply of 30 degree indexing solenoids that would be suitable for the EZ-Tuner I would love to buy a couple. Maybe we could pool our orders and take advantage of a quantity discount.


Tom Graves KD5TG
tgravesjr@hotmail.com
May 01, 2002
I just spoke to Allen Bond (see earlier post from Dave Rodgers) and he has some substitute doorknob capacitors in stock as well. Although he does not have the Centralab 858's he does have some 28 pf @ 5000v door knobs that can be placed in parallel and used. He has them for 2 bucks a piece and says he has a "mountain" of them left in stock. He also advised that these are the NPO type so they are the temperature compensated version. These are of course better than than regular version. Just trying to help out.


Tom Graves KD5TG
tgravesjr@hotmail.com
May 01, 2002
I ordered the Enclosure today from Buckeye Stamping. However, I have a question re: the RF DEck. Is this custom made, or is it a part that can be ordered as well. I am trying to run down the last few pieces and this is one of my last things to run down. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


va2tpy
va2tpy@rac.ca
May 01, 2002
Edgar, If we keep the subpanel, the rf deck is 15" w x 11" d x 5" h with 1 1/8" under the subpanel and the control compartment is 15" w x 4 1/8" d x 6 1/4" h. I'm planning on using one of the meters that was in is even though I don't yet know it's specs. If it's not sensitive enough an op amp will fix that. It just fits so well. Going to post this to the reflector for the others. > "Edgar Brown, N6OU" wrote: > > What are the inside dimensions of this case when you got finished > gutting it ? May have found an alternate much less expensive source > for the 30 uA meter. Should know within a week. TIA > Edgar, N6OU Reply to


VA2TPY Tim
va2tpy@rac.ca
April 29, 2002
If anyone is looking for a suitable encloser for the tuner, look for a H-P 8405A. There are a couple on ebay for $50 but you should be able to find them cheaper than this. Bought one the w/e for 25 cdn at a hamfest, finished gutting it this morning and everything will fit. The divided card enclosure got cut up and has become the front separator of the rf compartement.


Jim n2go
n2go@arrl.net
April 29, 2002
Is anyone planning on using Basic X BX-24 chip for this project? It appears to be pin for pin compatible. Question 2. Have you converted the code yet :) -Jim


Jim W8ZR
w8zr@arrl.net
April 27, 2002
Re ULN2068B substitution: The ULN2069B is a higher voltage version of the ULN2068B and is otherwise a direct substitute. As of today, Mouser shows 607 available for immediate shipment and 3325 available for 2-4 weeks shipment. The Mouser part number is 511-ULN2069B and the price is $1.20/ea. These ICs may be getting scarce, so it's probably advisable to order yours soon. --Jim


Dave Rogers
davewb4@aol.com
April 27, 2002
Hi All: Allan Bond at Max-Gain systens has a large quantity of Jennings RJ1A Vacuum relays.He also has Kilovac HC-1/S122 also SPDT. The Kilovac HC-1 will handle more current and switch a little faster. He charges $32.50 each for the Jennings or the Kilovac. He will also supply a dual mounting bracket fot two HC-1 relays (if you intend on using two SPDT instead of the DPDT) at no additional charge.You can access his web site at www.mgs4u.com Just clik on the section labeled Presidents Page and then on vacuum relays. Allan is a pleasure to deal with and has lots of hints on mounting procedures. I have no interest in Allans business, just a satisified customer


Robert Dellinger KG8GG
kg8gg@mindspring.com
April 27, 2002
Hi all in gathering up parts for the project I am unable to fine any ULN2068B chips.. Mouser has them listed on there web page but no stock.. Newark has them listed in there catalog 119 but not on there web page........ Also Digi-Key and Jameco... Any One?


Brad - N8SNM
n8snm@arrl.net
April 26, 2002
After a few emails with Jim, here is a little more info on my previous post. The motor I am offering is almost identical physically to Jim's chosen Slo-Syn. The Pac-Sci motor does not come with flying lead but rather an inline connector. Mating connectors are Amp p/n 641653-8 (.37 from digikey). The strain relief is Amp p/n 643077-8 (.65 from digikey). This motor is rated at 1.07 amps, 5 v. This is different from Jim's original Slo-Syn but Jim has looked at this motor and he feels it will work fine. I can supply additional info as requested... just let me know. Thanks, Brad.


Brad - N8SNM
n8snm@arrl.net
April 25, 2002
Jim and all: First it's pleasure to see such a high quality project. I'm looking forward to the challange. I happen to work for a motion control distributor and have an offer for the group. I am able to provide an equivalent stepper motor at distributor cost to those interested. I can only place ONE order for the motors. The motor would be a Pacific Scientific model: P21NRXD-LDF-NS-00. Cost to the group would be $37.80 each + Shipping. I WILL NOT be making any profit from this. If interested, let me know no later than June 1st. Delivery should be about 2 weeks. Thanks, Brad - N8SNM n8snm@arrl.net


Jim W8ZR
w8zr@arrl.net
April 24, 2002
Reply to G3SEM: For balanced lines, there's certainly no reason one shouldn't install the balun at the input of the tuner, as explained in recent ARRL Handbook designs. The benefit is that the balun always sees 50 ohms. The downside is that the balun is always in the circuit, even for coaxial lines. Since I mostly use coax fed antennas, and since I've not had any bad experience with output baluns, I decided not to use an input balun. However, I certainly can't fault builders who decide to do so. --Jim


Paul Cort-Wright
paul.cort-wright@bbc.co.uk
April 24, 2002
Very Interested in the E-Z Tuner... but ( there always is a But, isn't there! ) would like to use it on balanced feeders. I see you have included a Balun for use on the output, for that purpose. However not to keen on using Baluns at high SWR and note that recent articles suggest chokes/Baluns at 50 ohmn end and isolating the entire ATU assembly to make that work at the high SWR direct on open wire feeders. I realise this technique will require a lot larger cabinet and some construction mods. Any thoughts.......... meanwhile thanks for an extremely interesting article, very well supported by your web site. You really have been busy. Pity I missed some of the parts order but thats the price you pay waiting for QST to arrive in the UK 73 Paul G3SEM


Jim W8ZR
w8zr@arrl.net
April 21, 2002
Hi Gang: I've added a page to the site with construction hints for gearing down a stepper motor to turn the inductor switch. I hope those of you who don't have a stepper with an attached reducing gearhead will find some useful ideas. Click HERE to go to the page. --Jim


Jim W8ZR
w8zr@arrl.net
April 20, 2002
Reply to KC8RDO & N4KF: In the manual mode, the EZ-Tuner will work fine on MARS frequencies, but not in the automatic mode. The reason is that in the auto mode the software performs a test on the transmitter RF to verify that it is in a valid ham band. If not, the tuner won't automatically track the frequency. The software could be modified for MARS use (or any other frequency range), but it would be a chore, because the memory segments would have to be redefined. Many kinds of vacuum relays will work in the circuit, besides those specified. (EBay or Fair Radio Sales are good sources). Jennings RJ1A SPDT relays are probably the easiest to find. Vacuum DPDT relays are a bit harder to locate, but two SPDT relays can be used instead (with the coils wired in parallel). --Jim


Don, KC8RDO
kc8rdo@arrl.net
April 20, 2002
GREAT project Jim!!! Will the EZ-Tuner work on the MARS frequencies? I noticed in the May QST that the inductor taps were aligned for the amateur bands only. Thank you, 73, KC8RDO


Ken Fath N4KF
kfath@bellsouth.net
April 20, 2002
Jim, Received the kit this week. Thanks for getting the stepper motors together. Sure made that part of the project easy. I am scrounging the rest of the parts together. I am having trouble locating the vacuum relays as surplus somewhere. I have tried the Jennings and Kilovac sites for info as well as Nebraska and Lima but so far no luck. Any other hints from you or other builders? Thanks again for putting together a great project that will keep me out of trouble for a while. Ken


Dave Rogers WB4CHK
davewb4@aol.com
April 19, 2002
Jim: Received the boards today and they are even better than you described. Great Job. I see some questions about the enclosure. For those who don't want to spring For $179.00 for the Shapeform refer to my post of April 10 Re: A Dentron MLA 2500 Amp.With Dayton comming up there is sure to be a bunch of junk units available.Not only can you get C2, L1, and S1 but with slight mods (drilling out the spot welds on the bottom panel flipping it over for another 3/4" head room and having new front and rear panels made) you get a very professional enclosure with inside demensions a little larger than the Shapeform.Total cost from metal shop $30.00 including RF deck and stepper motor mounting bracket.


W8ZR
w8zr@arrl.net
April 19, 2002
Reply to K0PQ: Sorry, Steve, but the Buckeye cabinet doesn't include a chassis plate. You'll have to make that on your own, unless you can sweet-talk the friendly folks at Buckeye to do it for you. Fortunately, all sheet metal in the EZ-Tuner are rectangular aluminum pieces, with no bending required. They're bolted together using 1/2 in. aluminum angle stock from my local hardware store. Although the aluminum sheet could be cut on a band saw, it's best to shear it in order to obtain crisp, straight edges. Most any machine shop should have a sheet-metal shear that could do this for you in a few minutes. Jim


Steve Banks K0PQ
sbanks2571@att.net
April 19, 2002
Jim- Thanks for your Bulletin Board comment about my cabinet question; I eventually located the Buckeye item in your parts list. BTW does the Buckeye cabinet include the chassis plate and the other aluminum angle pieces and plates needed to assemble the EZ, or did those items come from some other source? I can call Buckeye, but I thought there might be general interest if I posted the question here. I recall rather well my build of the HBR-16 years ago. Even though it was a bit of work to drill, tap and punch a stock chassis and cabinet, it all worked out pretty well. The EZ looks to be a similar project...a few knuckle cuts and scrapes, but a labor of love no doubt, and well worth the effort. Tnx for any further information you have time to offer about my chassis questions. Steve K0PQ


Ken Naizer, WA5JJB
kcnaizer@motivaenterprises.com
April 19, 2002
Have needed a tuner & wanted to build one for a long time. Your article stimulated the "good old days" feelings when we built much more of our ham gear than we bought. I'm collecting parts (collecting from the "good old days" equates to just plain old ordering out of a catalog today!) and getting excited about starting this project. Thanks for taking the time to submit article to ARRL. 73, Ken


Vern Van Zandt - N7GTB
N7GTB@ARRL.NET
April 18, 2002
Just recv'd the May '02 issue QST and hungrily read the eztuner article... I'm in the design phase of my own tuner and plan to use uC (probably the MSP430F14x from TI) for automation and measurement of operating characteristics (SWR, PWR, etc). Anyone else here using the MSP series controllers in homebrew stuff? 73's -Vern N7GTB@ARRL.net


Jim W8ZR
w8zr@arrl.net
April 18, 2002
Reply to Steve K0PQ: The cabinet has outside dimensions of 7"Hx17"Wx16"D and inside dimensions of 6.65"Hx15.78"Wx15.06" and is made by Buckeye Shapeform(www.buckeyeshapeform.com) Model DII-70-4-16 black/vinyl and cost $179.10. Company sells direct (credit cards accepted) at 1-800-728-0776 and are very nice folks. I think they made cabinets for some of the Alpha/ETO amps. It might be easier to lay out parts if builders used the next larger size (8.75"Hx17"Wx20"D), which I think is model DII-87-4-20. Re tools,etc., please see FAQ #11. --Jim


Steve Banks K0PQ
sbanks2571@att.net
April 17, 2002
Jim & The Group- As mentioned last month, the EZ-Tuner reminds me a LOT of how I reacted to the HBR-16 Receiver back in the early 1960s, which Ted Crosby (W6TC, sk) designed and which many of us built. It was a real gem, as is the EZ-Tuner; both projects really get my juices running! A general question: Has anyone suggested a suitable starting place for procuring or fabricating the required chassis/cabinet pieces? I've got an ample supply of good hand tools, and I've built a lot of projects in my 48 years of hamming; however, the cabinet enclosure and associated parts look a little daunting to someone like me with no drillpress, bandsaw or the like. I sure would like to build at least a reasonable replica of Jim's EZ-Tuner artistry, but I'm a little stumped about where to start with the enclosure. Any suggestions? Maybe I haven't looked far enough on the website. Tnx for any suggestions. Steve K0PQ


Jim n2go
n2go@arrl.net
April 17, 2002
I can offer an assortment of Teflon wire. The assortment is 22AWG silver plated, stranded teflon insulated wire. rated 600V and 200degrees C. Ten fifty foot rolls (500 feet total) Assorted colors/ no choice of colors in this offer) I don't have any larger gauge wire at this time. Price is $28 shipped via priority mail (CONUS) Paypal address is n2go@arrl.net Please confirm availability before sending payment.


W8ZR
w8zr@arrl.net
April 17, 2002
Reply to K0XU: Sure, it's fine in principle to connect the two sections of a variable cap in series, to reduce the capacitance range. The difficulty in doing so is that rather complex switching is required, if one also wants to connect the sections in parallel. The change in configuration can be done either with relays and multi-section rotary switches, if one can accept the increased complexity. -- Jim


k0xu
k0xu@arrl.net
April 17, 2002
Jim - Very nice looking project. Way to ambitious for me right now. At least the automated portions. Just a quick question. Upon looking at your circuit and realizing that you were only using half of the input capacitor on the higher frequencies, I had to wonder if you had thought about switching it into a series configuration (~9.5 to 101pF) to further reduce the capacitance for the very low settings. I think I might try that in a future project here. Using a single section cap has always made the higher band tuning quite touchy. Using only half the cap would make it much easier. Using it in series for a quarter of the capacitance should make 10 & even 12 meter tuning less touchy.


Jim W8ZR
w8zr@arrl.net
April 16, 2002
Hi Dave, Construction details for custom capacitor C5 (10pF)are given in the June QST article. Basically it's just two inches of RG-58 braid, slipped over a length of teflon-sleeved #10 or #12 wire. I covered the braid with heat shrink tubing to make it look good. The wire forms one "plate" and the braid the other. It's not at all critical. Making the braid longer (increasing the capacitance), will increase sensitivity of the frequency counter, and vice versa. A disk or mica cap will also work fine, though it should have at least 1500V insulation. --Jim


Dave Rogers WB4CHK
davbewb4@aol.com
April 15, 2002
Jim: could you provide some info on C5 the 10pf custom cap. i.e. Braid size and sleeve size? Thanks


Jeffrey Pederson KD4LYH
kd4lyh@earthlink.net
April 15, 2002
Hi Jim, I wanted to thankyou for all your support in helping me with questions that I had. Im already off to a good start constructing the EZ-Tuner. I thought it was one of the best construction projects I,ve seen in QST for quite awhile. Thankyou for sharing your vast knowledge.


Lee Buller - K0WA
k0wa@swbell.net
April 14, 2002
What a great article and QST and I just stumbled onto your web page. I have a home brew tuner constructed in an Heathkit SB-200 cabnet. I was wondering if there would be any trick in just putting in the circuts that tell you where you are in inductance and capacitance. That would be a wonderful way to update a whole of of homebrew tuners out there. The tuner would still be manual, but use the L and C computer to show where you are in the tuning. Lee


Dave - W6TE
w6te@pacbell.net
April 14, 2002
Dear Friends, Well, lets see... I've aquired a very nice enclosure... it use to house a Honneywell chart recorder. (I had two and sold one on Ebay for $25 last year there were no takers on this unit so I'm going to press it into service for my EZ - Tuner project). It's one rack unit taller and about 3 inches deeper but should work just fine. I'll have a new face and rear panel cut from a local source. Jim, I have a 19 position, dual section (ceramic) HV switch that I would like to use for S1 (I'm grasping here)...it had provisions for moving the stops to make it an 11 position switch. I'm hoping that a software change will make this switch useable(?). If it will, I have an additional switch that I can make available to the group (trade or small cash). I have available to the group a few, dual, 50 ohm, Bird line sections that I can make available to the group in trade for parts that I need for this project or for sale. I need many of the major components, Meter, coil, u-processor, etc. If enough are interested, maybe we could get a group discount on a large buy. Maybe we could list the parts we need and someone could pick up the ball and see if a group discount would be available??? If there were enough interest, I could fulfill this function. Let me know if this is of interest to anyone. Lastly, I will be incorporating a bypass relay into my tuner. This will allow me to attach a dummy load for amp tune-up. It's always been a hassel to have an external, stand alone, toggle switch on my operating dest to switch to the dummy load for tuneup. So, here's the opportunity to put in a bypass switch and additional vaccum relays to make this happen. Any comments or suggestions? Thanks & 73, Dave Smith / W6TE 1451 E. Vartikian Ave. Fresno, CA 93710 559 423-0290 AMSAT Area Coordinator ARRL OO ARRL Technicial Advisor Telecommunication Engineer, Pacific Gas & Electric Co. Work: 559 263-5140


Jim W8ZR
w8zr@arrl.net
April 11, 2002
I was asked about a source for the EZ-tuner's lighted pushbutton switches. They are Tyco/Alcoswitch models 164LS22 (square, momentary lighted pushbutton) and 164TL11 (rectangular, lighted pushbutton), available from Newark Electronics (www.newark.com).You have to order the lamps and colored bezels separately. Now, here's the bad news. They cost --- are you sitting down? -- about $25 each! The rocker switches are from Radio Shack, and if I hadn't already had the Tyco/Alco switches on hand from a previous project, I'd have used Radio Shack pushbutton switches, too. If you really HAVE to have the same switches I used, then verify my part numbers from the Newark catalog before ordering. You can view on-line drawings and data sheets for the switches. The Newark part no. for one of the switches is 46F3135. That should get you started. However, frankly, I'd spend my money on something else! --Jim


David L. Rogers
davewb4@ aol.com
April 10, 2002
Jim: Thanks for a great project. I have been scrounging parts from the first day the article appeared.For information there are lot a Dentron MLA 2500 amps available cheap(the finals are no longer made, I bought one at the Miami hamfest for $50.00 with no finals and a fried power xmer.)It will provide C2, L1,& S1( with some slight mods) I had an 18-450pf variable so will use it for C1 and eliminate one wafer on the switch. I homebrewed L2 using Panduit grommet edgeing and #12 wire from Home Depot. Total cost of the coil about $5.00. Anyone who wants to see the finished coil I will be happy to e-mail a scan.The only problem is the Panduit edging is available only in large quantities at $50.00 a package, enough to make 12 coils, so a few builders would have to get together to make it cost effective. It does give you a professional coil.I have a write up on the procedure for anyone interested or you can find it in the fall 2000 issue of QRPp.If you would like a copy just e-mail me for my address and send me an SASE.I hope this shows that this project can be built for a lot less than you think.I am working on an enclosure and will post the results if it works.


Jim W8ZR
w8zr@arrl.net
April 10, 2002
Hi Gang: I've received several questions about sheet metal dimensions and clearances. I'm afraid I can't supply detailed construction drawings, but here are a few key measurements:

(1) Cabinet: 17"W x 7"H x 16"D. These are outside dimensions. The inside dims of the Buckeye cabinet are considerably smaller.
(2) RF compartment: 16"W x 4.875"H x 14"D (inside dimensions)
(3) Chassis gap: ~2" from chassis front edge to inside front panel (not critical)
(4) RF Compartment & Chassis Vertical Clearances (top to bottom):

Underside of cabinet top cover to top of RF compartment cover plate: 0.125" (approx)
RF compartment top cover thickness: .047"
Air space from bottom of RF compart. cover to top of variable caps: 0.375"
Var. capacitor height (top to bottom): 4.0"
Var. cap chassis standoffs: 0.500"
Chassis plate thickness: 0.062"
Underchassis space (from bottom of chassis to bottom cabinet lid): 1.4375"

Now, here are a few additional comments: First, I recommend using my measurements only as a general guide. There's no substitute for laying out the actual components to make sure everything fits. Second, if you use longer variable capacitors than my specified Cardwell-Johnson types, you'll probably have to use a deeper cabinet. There isn't much extra front-to-back clearance between components. In fact, when you're laying out the front panel, make sure the back of the meter, encoders, and pushbutton switches don't bump into the stepper motors. I made a scale drawing of the front panel with "shadow" outlines of all the parts to make sure that two components didn't try to occupy the same space! And finally, unless you're wedded to my particular cabinet (which, admittedly, is a beauty), then you might want to use a slightly larger cabinet. You'll save a lot of time laying out components. --Jim


Dave Smith / W6TE
w6te@pacbell.net
April 09, 2002
Hi Jim... First, my complements to you on your fine construction article in QST. It's articles like yours that will spark the interest of old time builders and, hopefully, new builders as well. I had been mulling around for quite some time, a project simular to yours. When I read the first installment in QST's April issue, I knew that was going to be a project I would be interested in persuing. You've taken the majority of the hard work out of the project...the design. I just stumbled upon your webpage through a "google" search of "Yaesu FT-1000 MKV." You've done a marvelous job on your website as well! I'm looking forward to visiting often and sharing updates on my version of your "EZ-Tuner". Thank you for your efforts in building this little jewel and for sharing it as well. Best of 73, Dave / W6TE


Ron KA9ALC
majrabsr@rconnect.com
April 08, 2002
Hi Jim, This is EXACTLY the project I have been looking for. I've even gone to the extent of starting a layout of a similar project, UNTIL I saw this one! Your tuner is truly a thing of beauty - well designed and constructed. It will be an absolute pleasure to build one as close to your specs as I can possibly get. Keep up the good work. 73, Ron, KA9ALC


Jose Alves - CT1FHW
CT1FHW@MAIL.TELEPAC.PT
April 03, 2002
It's one of the best projects I have seen in the web!!! Good Luck!! 73's J.Alves Portugal


Herb Rosenthal W5AN
herbrose@lobo.net
March 24, 2002
One of the best projects and web sites I've ever seen. Really got the juices flowing, Jim. Thanks for your time and effort.


Paul Christensen, W9AC
michele@mediaone.net
March 24, 2002
Jim, My compliments to you on a most excellent construction article. Thank you for taking the time to share your learned building experience and to provide the necessary information to those of us with the interest and ambition to begin constructing this project on our own. The information contained in your FAQs, has already answered all my questions. 73, -Paul, W9AC


Bob K7ZB
k7zb@arrl.net
March 21, 2002
What a pleasure to go thru this site... I will probably never get around to building one of these, but I surely recognize a "technological tour-de-force" when I see one!



Jerry K8RA
k8ra@aol.com
March 12, 2002
Jim... I looked more carefully at the tuner. It really is a beautiful piece of craftsmanship. I enjoy having a friend who can do this. We all learn a lot.